CasoDB AMENDED - New Database and scenarios

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Postby Herman Hum » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:36 am

The revised CasoDB files and updated scenarios have been added to the Library installation files and await your signal for release.

Why don't you release the first scenario of the third battleset at the same time? I don't think most folks are going to care about DB changes unless there is a scenario with which to play them, IMHO. However, if you prefer two separate release activities, that is your prerogative.
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Re: 12th Scenario

Postby aotino » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:53 am

Herman Hum wrote:Why don't you release the first scenario of the third battleset at the same time? I don't think most folks are going to care about DB changes unless there is a scenario with which to play them, IMHO. However, if you prefer two separate release activities, that is your prerogative.


Hmm, that's a better idea! You're right, I will do exactly that. I'll get it all together and send it out. Thanks again for all your help. I hope any players checking it out will enjoy the play!

Attached is the first scenario for the third battleset-Too Few Victories. It's called, "The Second Beagle Conflict."

Best, Alan
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Postby Herman Hum » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:10 am

Library installation files have been updated with the revised database and scenarios and await your release announcements.
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Re: CasoDB AMMENDED - New Database and scenarios

Postby aotino » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:10 am

Hey Herman, okay I'm confused.
I was doing my routine refresh by reloading the Harpoon ANW Db from the library, but where is it? All the old links are no longer valid. Went to the new site where they advertise the new Matrix naval game - Command -Modern Naval/Air Operations......(Have to ask your opinion on that later).., but could not find where one reloads the Player's Db. Pretty cryptic, and not an easy path to find. A little guidance would be much appreciated.

Never mind. I figured it out. Just needed to get used to the new set up. Seems that there's a renewed interest in Harpoon from several quarters. That's a good thing. Still want your imput on the new sim mentioned above.
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Re: CasoDB AMMENDED - New Database and scenarios

Postby aotino » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:26 am

2nd Amended Caso dB

Announcing a new, 2nd update of the Caso dB which reflects changes in the turn-around or “ready time” of most aircraft loadouts. The loadouts have been accelerated for quicker game play. To some of the more traditional and conservative gamers of the Harpoon community, this most likely will be viewed as heresy. However, the Indochine Campaign is based on a “what if” premise, so certain liberties have already been taken. For the sake of keeping the game moving and exciting, the intent is to prevent long and drawn out scenarios. You will find the update in the Players DB Harpoon Library, and along with it all the Indochine scenarios to date will be re-synched with the new database.

In addition, this notice announces the 3rd and latest Indochine Battleset, “Too Few Victories,” which will be comprised of six new scenarios. Thanks and enjoy!

Alan Caso

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03.0 Too Few Victories

This is to announce the 3rd Battleset, consisting of six scenarios that occur during May-Jun of 2007.

Still finding themselves in a defensive posture, the Allies look desperately for somewhere to strike a blow. Morale is low, and the defeatists have the podium. The strategists realize that although a quick victory would be a welcome event, holding the line is the most important action at this point. Spin doctors try to paint a positive picture while the strategy is to hold tight and stay the course.

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The 12th NEW Indochine Campaign Scenario!

12 The 2nd Beagle Conflict

South/Central America/Carribean/US
Tierra del Fuego, Southern tip of the Americas:

Spanish for "Fireland" or "Land of Fire," Tierra del Fuego is an archepelago off the southernmost tip of the South American mainland across the Strait of Magellan. It is an area that is divided by both Chile and Argentina. Beagle Channel is a strait in this archipelago island chain. The Beagle Channel, the Straits of Magellan to the north, and the open ocean Drake Passage to the south are the three navigable passages around South America between the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans. The channel was named after the ship HMS Beagle during its first hydrographic survey off these southern coasts. The ship was famous for the English naturalist, Charles Darwin, who was along as a self-funding supernumerary, and at the time, an amateur naturalist.

From the 1950's to 1970's, several incidents involving the Chilean and Argentine Navies occurred in the waters of the Beagle Channel. This ended with the Treaty of Peace and Friendship of 1984 between Chile and Argentina.

Once again that remote area of the world comes under conflict. Argentine forces from their main southern combined military base at Rio Gallegos, together with elements of their southern naval base at Ushuaia attempt to seize control of the Beagle Channel. In this difficult endeavor, the Argentines plan a multifaceted attack on the Chilean naval base at Puerto Williams. Chilean military units are on hand to answer the call in a desperate confrontation.

(Source: provided by Wikipedia)

Author: Alan Caso

This is the twelfth scenario written for ANW and HUE using the customized CasoDB. The scenario and database are bundled within the PlayersDB installation file due to its phenomenal popularity and ease of use.

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Postby Herman Hum » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:29 am

The files are out. Same DL links as before. I do not know why you thought that you could not get them.

Harpoon HUE users can get the:
Complete PlayersDB Harpoon HUE Library

Harpoon ANW users can get the:
Complete PlayersDB Harpoon ANW Library

Here is a review of the new MNO game:

http://www.simhq.com/air-combat/command-modern-air-naval-operations-review.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zoK0L3wprw
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Postby aotino » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:41 am

Herman Hum wrote:The files are out. Same DL links as before. I do not know why you thought that you could not get them.


I don't know why either. Just to a minute to figure it out. I'm good to go now though. Thanks.
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Re: CasoDB AMMENDED - New Database and scenarios

Postby aotino » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:02 am

Hey Herman, having just relosded my ANW Library, I just looked at the scenarios in Opening Salvos, and somehow all the seven scenarios have the wrong date on them. They should be 10-15-13, and what you loaded up was 10-14-12. I don't know where those came from. The games I zipped were all dated from 10-15-13, and the zip folders of course are dated as today the 21st. Let me know if you have the same. If so, we need to change them.

I've resent you the zipped Opening Salvos scenarios.
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Postby Herman Hum » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:49 am

I believe you are in error. I just downloaded the ANW installer and unzipped it. All the scenarios are 2013 and match the dates of the files you have attached via *.zip file.

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Are you finished with your release announcements? I see that none have been made on the traditional sites:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/t ... #Post65048
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2760260
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/posts.asp?t=264083
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Re: CasoDB AMMENDED - New Database and scenarios

Postby aotino » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:10 pm

You are probably right. If yours shows the right dates then it was user error on my part and I'll reload the library tonight when I get home.

I never finished posting the announcements last night because it got too late. I did three of them, and I'll do the last three tonight as well.

Thanks Herman.
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Re: CasoDB AMMENDED - New Database and scenarios

Postby aotino » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:29 am

Hi Herman and happy New Year.

I have an interesting quandry with a scenario I'm testing, "The Gate of Grief." I haven't finished the scenario to see if all the ViConds have triggered, but it is a long scenario and I wanted to check on some of the ViConds I know should be completed - namely some of the targets that have been successfully destroyed with the number required to satisfy the ViCond. So, what I did was to save the game up to that point, resigned and checked to see if those particular ViConds were satisfied. Much to my dismay, most of the ground target ViConds were not credited, even though they were correct in the All Losses listing. It showed that they were destroyed, and in the exact amount necessary to trip the ViCond. I thought maybe you could have a look snd see what I'm missing or if there is a glitch.
Please download the game, let it run for a few seconds, then Resign and compare the Failed ViConds with the same ground targets listed in the Enemy All Loss Listing and you'll see the the numbers have been met. The enemy is Indochine Raiders and the playing side is France.

Here's a list of the ground targets as they are qualified in the ViConds:

12 - SSM Type 80 Battery x3
1 - SSM MtO-85 Battery FIN 85
3 - SSM RBS-15F Battery SE 84
6 - Coastal Bty 130mm DPRK
9 - SSM RB-12 Penguin BAttery
5 - SSM RB-12 Penguin Mk2 (x8)
10 - SSM SSC-2a Salish Battery x4
14 - Arty 130mm/53 Tornikanuuna FIN
12 - SSM FL-10 Battery

Thanks! Would love to hear your thoughts. Best, Alan

ps. Have most of the rest of the scenarios (5) tested and ready for release for this Battle Set.
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Postby Herman Hum » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:18 am

I examined the saved game and think that I have located your ViCond problem for at least one of them. I will use the 10x "SSM SSC-2a Salish Battery 4x" as the example.

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The ViCond requires 10 units to be destroyed. However, in the list of eligible targets, there is only ONE possible unit that can fulfill this ViCond. Therefore, this ViCond can never be completed. You have specified the Unit category. Each and every unit in the game is different (even if they all have the same name). The game assigns each unit a specific identification number (that you cannot see). If you want the ViCond to consider ALL SSC-2a units for the ViCond, you should select the Class category and select SSC-2a battery. You can also add each and every SSC-2a facility to the list of eligible units.

There is no need to delete the Unit entry from the eligible list. You can just add the Class category for SSM SSC-2a and it will encompass the individual Salish battery already selected. When using the Class, Sub-type, or Type categories, it is not a bad idea to also include an example of the individual Unit as clarification. The individual unit is already covered by the Class/Sub-type/Type categories, but helps clarify the ViCond to both player and scenario designer.

If you have scenarios ready for release, you may wish to do so at a steady pace so that players are not swamped by a wave of new scenarios. That way, they can play and digest them slowly as they appear. However, that is up to you. Just post them when you think they are ready for release and they will be added to the installation files.
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Postby aotino » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:30 am

Herman Hum wrote:I examined the saved game and think that I have located your ViCond problem for at least one of them. I will use the 10x "SSM SSC-2a Salish Battery 4x" as the example.

Salish.gif


There is only ONE possible unit that can fulfill this ViCond. Therefore, this ViCond can never be completed. You have specified the Unit category. Each and every unit in the game is different (even if they all have the same name). The game assigns each unit a specific identification number (that you cannot see). If you want the ViCond to consider ALL SSC-2a units for the ViCond, you should select the Class category and select SSC-2a battery. You can also add each and every SSC-2a facility to the list of eligible units.

There is no need to delete the Unit entry from the eligible list. You can just add the Class category for SSM SSC-2a and it will encompass the individual Salish battery already selected. When using the Class, Sub-type, or Type categories, it is not a bad idea to also include an example of the individual Unit as clarification.


That's great, Herman. I knew you'd shed light on it. I did know that detail about Class versus Unit, but forgot. Just haven't had it come up recently in my designs, so now I know. I will make that correction, and then finish testing the scenario.

Herman Hum wrote: If you have scenarios ready for release, you may wish to do so at a steady pace so that players are not swamped by a wave of new scenarios. That way, they can play and digest them slowly as they appear. However, that is up to you. Just post them when you think they are ready for release and they will be added to the installation files.


Yes, you have suggested that and you're right. I will get set to release them in a sequential and steady pace. In fact, two of the scenarios you actually tested for me a while ago were the Majuro/Betio and Palikir Islands assaults. I went through them again and cleaned them up - the biggest issue was straightening out the numbers in the magazines of the US Tico ships.

Thanks for the tips and I will contact you when I compose the next release announcement.

Best, Alan
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Re: CasoDB AMMENDED - New Database and scenarios

Postby aotino » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:49 am

Hey Herman,

So it all worked out well. The correction you suggested was a correct one. Interestingly enough, I was also having problems with air groups fulfilling On Station requirements in this same scenario. I similarly didn't have "Class" added to the Air Unit ViConds because for some reason, I kept thinking it was only a problem with Land Units. In these On Station ViConds for these air units there was a 5 minute Delta Time requirement. The ViCond was not triggering, even after 20 minutes. So, just for kicks, I tried the same adjustment by adding "Class" to the ViCond as well as "Unit." Bingo, it solved the problem. So, there you have it.

I have a scenario ready to go - all tested and ready to go into the "Too Few Victories" battleset. It is actually the scenario that preceeds this present one that was giving me so many problems.

I have attached it, and will get the announcements out very soon.

Thanks,
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Re: CasoDB AMMENDED - New Database and scenarios

Postby aotino » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:04 am

The 13th NEW Indochine Campaign Scenario!

13 Phantoms of Jiddat al Harasis

Mideast/Southwest Asia/Eastern Mediterranean

Arabian Sea:

Iranian-supported Omani rebels conduct raids in the Arabian Sea on merchant and naval shipping. Operating from the remote shores along the coast of Oman between Juzur al Halaniyat and the Gulf of Masirah, the barren plains of the Jiddat al Harasis provide a refuge for these phantom marauders, causing them to seemingly disappear into the desert air.

The Omani military cannot control the area. The US Navy attempts to ferret out these ghosts of the desert.

Author: Alan Caso

This is the thirteenth scenario written for ANW and HUE using the customized CasoDB. The scenario and database are bundled within the PlayersDB installation file due to its phenomenal popularity and ease of use.

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